Joe Rogan left a so-called Google ‘researcher’ with no explanation as to why privacy is practically non-existent on their devices.
Speaking with Ray Kurzweil, who is described as a “scientist, futurist, and Principal Researcher and AI Visionary at Google,” on The Joe Rogan Experience podcast, Rogan pressed him about the capabilities of intelligence agencies gleaning from ordinary devices, The Western Journal reported.
However, Kurzweil insisted that the industry “can create privacy that’s virtually unbreakable, and you can keep the privacy to yourselves.”
But when Rogan pressed him about the industry’s unwillingness to implement such privacy, Kurzweil was left speechless.
“Anyone can listen to you on your phone. I mean, anyone who has a significant technology,” the host said.
“No. Actually, it has pretty good technology already. You can’t really read someone else’s phone,” Kurzweil claimed.
“You definitely could,” Rogan shot back.
“Yeah, if you have Pegasus, you could hack into your phone easily, not hard at all,” he added, referring to the advanced spyware the FBI has employed.
“All they need is your phone number, and they can look at every text message you send. Every email you send. They can look at your camera, they can turn on your microphone. Easy,” Rogan warned.
Kurzweil made a sorry attempt to deflect the criticism, claiming the industry already can preserve “total privacy, and if it’s not built into your phone now, it will be.”
Rogan then doubled down.
“Right, but it’s definitely not built in your phone now,” Rogan said.
“With the security people that really understand the capabilities of intelligence agencies, they 100 percent can listen to your phone. One hundred percent can turn on your camera. One hundred percent can record your voice,” Rogan charged.
“Yes and no. I mean, we have the ability to keep total privacy in a device,” the Google tech guru claimed.
Rogan highlighted the fact that phones pick up private conversations, noting that devices like Amazon’s Alexa‘s surveillance capabilities have led to criminal convictions because the device “heard them committing murder.”
As The BBC reported, Daniel White was convicted of killing his wife, Angie White, after recordings made by the smart device were used as evidence.
However, Kurzweil could only explain that “perfect privacy” is possible, even if it is not already a feature on the phone.
“But it’s not just an imperfection, it’s sort of built into the program itself, because that’s what fuels the algorithm as it has access to all of your data,” Rogan said.
“It has access to all of your, what you’re interested in, what you like, what you don’t like, you can’t opt out of it, especially you, you’ve got a Google phone. That thing is just a net scooping up information,” he added.
